However, will I judge anyone who thinks otherwise; probably... maybe a little, but that doesn't make me unequivocally correct. Many (most?) Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Like the Garlic Jr. filler episodes, consider GT is a full filler just taking parts of the official source. GT is just as canon as the movies. So Toriyama did have some connections to GT. Vegeta even achieves  超サイヤ人 transformation-state due to the thought that a 'low-level piece of trash' could ever surpass him.. xD. however, Chilled notices this and shoots Berry with his Death Razor technique to eliminate the Plant for good. Dragon ball GT wasn't based off the manga. Nonetheless, DBGT had significant influence and input from Toriyama, who is credited as the author of the series and for the character designs. Hereby another proof that GT is canon is in the movie Dragon Ball Z: Battle Of Gods. However, Akira Toriyama approved of the series and even provided some designs for it. Goku fights nothing like how he did in the canon story. Dragon Ball GT has been cancelled out canon when Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F' came out (which are canon). When the Earth was restored and only good people were allowed to be restored along with it (Dende made the wish with the Namekian Dragon Balls), how did Pilaf survive that? It is up to the fans to decide. BlueMew1234 (talk) 17:20, May 27, 2014 (UTC)Bluemew1234. Personally, I believe it's canon. Not documenting Super at all in articles in favor of the movies isn't an option either, because that contradicts the wiki's purpose. Obviously Dragon Ball Doesn't really have an actual definition of canon, which is true aswell. Pan did play some important roles, however, but the absence of Goten, Trunks, Gohan, Pan, Bulla (who was half saiyan, but never fought at all) and even Vegeta to a lesser extent as being stronger and more involved in the fighting and better at fighting was disappointing. It's canon depending on how much you like DBZ, and how well you know the characters, It is canon and non canon at the same time, and is a sequel, but not a main series. The funimation episode is not in my mind, they twisted it to their own creation, leaving the whole plot in a mess. In the new movie, it is revealed that there are 12 universes. “We thought maybe it was taken from GT cars, and got out our dictionaries. Evolve 20 (talk) 17:48, July 9, 2013 (UTC). A scientific basis for this could be that since both Vegeta and Goku married humans, the trait became recessive, and Gohan just so happened to have inherited it, while Trunks, Goten and Bulla didn't grow them. During the History of Dragon Ball exhibit at the Tokyo Skytree + Viz North America Tour, official names were given for each of the canon story arcs in both the Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Supermanga. In Battle of Gods, Goku manages to use his SSJG powers in SSJ form, so it would explain why he didn't actually use the SSJG form itself. Honestly, people should be questioning the validity of Battle of Gods as canon since the main argument against GT is that it didn't have a manga. As for the show itself, Morishita said it was Toriyama who came up with its title. It wasn't a retcon because the source never gave Goku's full backstory. Super Saiyan 4 is a flashy sight, but there’s still a lot about it that goes misunderstood. Zorn88 says. GT wasn't made by Toriyama, and Super is made by a senile Toriyama's ramblings written on toiler paper. It wouldn`t be canon if just Akira is the scriptwriter! Well, GT is like a filler. No room for interpretation. Some conversations are completely changed for seemingly no real reason at all. As much I might want it to be canon I just dont think it is based on other facts. it depends on how you look at it, as it is not always all about having a manga or not. Overall, he beats Nappa, Vegeta, Recoome, Burter, Frieza, Yakon and Buu. Filler and GT are absent, or at least not shown. To the anime, however, is a different argument. They did not happen. It is also possible that the Print spooler in your system, i.e., the computer, isn’t working correctly. How do I know? I'm not saying that it isn't because I don't like it. According to the dictionarry, Canon is "the conceptual material accepted as "official" ". It is a minor series, which was created by Toei Animation. Dragon Ball GT was an anime created by the makers of the DBZ anime, supervised, strictly overseen, and designed by Akira Toriyama. GT either needs to occupy a seperate canon from the main continuity, or it has to be considered non-canon. EDIT: Akira Toriyama has come out and said, in the light of Battle of the Gods realease, that GT is NOT cannon. Manga Universe - The highest level of canon. That said, GT is unique in the fact that it has probably the least number of inconsistencies of anything not directly based on the manga. That's because Dragon Ball GT isn't official canon in the overarching Dragon Ball world or story. Yes Akira Toriyama did do some editing of it, but he did not write the series. Battle of the Gods made this argument a little problematic, as the Pilaf gand used the dragon balls to make themselves kid again by accident, which technically makes it impossible for them to be old people in GT. Post New Message; First; Previous; Page . Goten, Trunks and Gohan were all weaker which is probably the biggest tragedy of the entire series. By definition, it is not canon to the manga. End of story, there is no argument for it. is always flawed. Also super saiyan god is any level of super saiyan transformation above super saiyan 3 and super saiyan 4 is obviously above super saiyan 3. Unlike super he's writing super so that makes it canon. Your canon tier states that GT with less involvement of Torimaya falls under C-canon. In GT he does everything. Bardock obtains a tremendous amount of energy, formed into waves flowing through his body, and with his might, he turns into the almighty Super Saiyan. There are plenty of inconsistencies throughout Dragon Ball’s run in regards to the strength and speed of characters. for a short second, Bardock's anger causes him to see Chilled as Frieza, remembering his betrayal of the Saiyan race, and he becomes determined to avenge his crew and his newly found friend. Still, that hasn’t stopped fans from guessing about Toriyama’s work on Dragon Ball GT. Toriyama wrote one and didn't write the other. Not how much you like it. Doesn't matter if he drew some concepts or not. The fillers in the 90's series weren't canon because they weren't based on Akira Toriyama's ideas. Why not? And of course the 95% are his ideas, because is an anime, an animation series based on a original manga, an animation copy! I'm happy with this. In the credits, Toriyama is listed as the author of DBGT which would seem to make it canon. 2. So, … And so DBO is canonical with the manga. --TheDarkAss. That isn't to say we can't use the term when describing things, or debating things, but it's still largely a fanmade concept for the series. One could argue that it is canon to the anime as it is set in the timeline of the Dragon Ball universe. And let’s not even get started on the mustache… 28 Baby Vegeta's Strength And Speed. Now, it seems like one producer has helped answer those questions. He just didn't head off the story. It doesn't work. What if Akira Toriyama thought of DBS during GT? The idea that Toriyama is involved = CANON! … And at the end, Goku didn't need to go Super Saiyan God SS because he didn't need the form to fight Uub. Maybe your Canon printer isn’t connected to the network, or perhaps the network speed is slow, that is why your Canon Printer is not responding. Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z are the main two series. The creator is credited as the author in the anime’s credits, and Toriyama even drew sketches for the show to promote its biggest moments. Wether or not the movie is canon is POV and up to the reader, not us. Because of DBO, which Akira Toriyama did work on. So they're still entirely separate stories. Vegeta seemed to be weaker and never even went SS2 that I can remember. GT technically isn't canon any more, its considered an alternate timeline. The question is do I believe DBGT is canon; No. GT would have the least inconsistencies because there was no manga for it, thus, no filler. Had Goten, Trunks and especially Gohan (who should have still had the Elder Kai's power, but was able to go super saiyan in GT instead) who was the strongest character at the end of the Cell games and technically, was also the strongest at the end of DBZ could be come so weak and apparently his Ultimate form was forgotten about. Copyright 2020 ComicBook.com. There is no comparison. What was put out there was whatever they perceived the fans wanted. http://24.media.tumblr.com/b25c7b764ec3788a340e8eceee96acf1/tumblr_mlbxcpLToY1qfp0n5o1_1280.jpg. - November 27, 2017 07:40 pm EST. Dragon Ball GT can either be considered canon or non canon, it is up to you. Also since he wrote the story for Dragonball Xenoverse and created Demigra also and added all of GT and Broly and the other stuff in this game into HIS story that now makes them canon based off what you said. The only true canon is the 42 volumes of the manga along with Jaco & DBM. :+), [サイヤ人(Saiya-jin)s RagingSouls are typically fueled by their natural barbaric サイヤ人 ruthless self-ambitions, a clear example being Vegeta, before successfully transforming into a 超サイヤ人 - the young サイヤ人 Prince hated Frieza & the entire Planet Trade Organization, & thought of himself as 'the strongest warrior in the universe', being the 'super-elite' he was/that he came from a Royal サイヤ人* bloodline. GT is anime canon, it's author is Toriyama, so how can it not be canon? When it comes to Dragon Ball, fans are always wanting to know Akira Toriyama’s thoughts on the series. Personally, I can't find it in myself to stand for it. Thanks to Kazenshuu, a previous interview that Kozo Morishita did with Dragonbook has been translated into English. The movie isn't even worth watching, IMO. Akira Toriyama had a huge role in Dragonball Online. Therefore it isn't canon. If you say it's not, you are also saying that all the episode fillers in DB and DBZ are not canon, which would create several holes in the anime. But how about the remaining 11 universes... Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. People will also say: Super Saiyan God or Super Saiyan God SS aren't mentioned in Dragon Ball Z. Dragon Ball Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. Do you consider GT canon or non-canon? ]], Yes it is if you go by the Anime but if you go by the manga then no it's not.Supremegogeta 19:43, August 20, 2011 (UTC), |Non-canon all the way! Anime and Manga canon for this series is a bit different. If it doesn't come from the creator himself then it's not canon. Because Battle of Gods was awesome and GT wasn't. Of course he tried ending the series many times, most notably in the end of the Frieza saga, until he finally had his wish while finishing the Majin Boo saga. Not based off the manga, but still made by Toei and officially released. Since a lot a DBZ has non-manga based footage, that would mean a good chunk of it is non-canon, by your standards? And neither of them can fit into the timeline of the DBZ manga or the series. GT is the present DB(Z) world/timeline/dimension[/the Seventh Universe].. all 'side-stories' are apart of the Seventh known Dragon Ball (Z/GT) Universe - but one must comprehend that DB(Z/GT) is multi-dimensional[/MultiUniversal], with various sub-alternate timelines/dimensions within the same Universe. “That’s right. of 8; You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. It is impossible for DBO to be fully canon, despite how much Akira Toriyama worked on it. I win. It would be like saying that all Star Trek after Gene Roddenberry died isn't canon, which ... and therefore part of that story. Vegeta just got his ass kicked whenever he fought. Some people prefer to think of it as just a long fanfic or a "what-if" doujinshi that was adapted into an anime - Jcdizon416 21:01, August 20, 2011 (UTC), You can go to the Dragon Ball GT page for this one. Neither are canon. Just because the original creator wasn't involved, doesn't make it not canon. Franco isn’t an official arbiter of the canon, but he’s also not not that either. The different anime adaptions all introduce non-canon elements or create plot holes not present in the original. Technically, Dragon Ball Super sits between the Z and GT series, but has been sure to include several pieces of continuity from … By Megan Peters Since the latter information came from a video game released this year, it isn't clear whether this information is considered canon or not. That's why they're peddling these out before GT Goku, plus they want to capitalize on the movie just being released and doing very well in Japan. In fact, I actually liked GT a lot better than the last Saga of DBZ but I'm sorry, it is not cannon. Dragon Ball GT isn’t the most popular addition to the franchise, but its introduction of Super Saiyan 4 is a major turning point to the series. Isn't it possible that DBGT is in an alternate universe or if the movie setting IS in an alternate universe. It is anime canon. Inconsistancy has nothing to do with weather it is canon or not. did you know?.. Because Akira toriyama didn't make it. Dragon Ball FighterZ has been a revelation for fans of both fighting games and the Dragon Ball series of manga and anime. I assume that it is a part of the universe, just not THAT universe. It’s even more disheartening that Akira Toriyama was still responsible for GT’s character designs, which means Vegeta’s new haircut was his idea. future. Battle of Gods doesn't make GT noncanon because Battle of Gods can be seen as noncanon. only if he wishes it to be. Doesn't explain why we still don't have dates for either Buu figures though. Let's say DBO exists years after GT. --DARK 00:30, January 10, 2012 (UTC), While it is true that the events of DBO aren't cannon due to the fact that players determine the story, there are events that happened before DBO that were created for DBO that are canon. fans of the Dragonball series sees Dragonball GT as a horrible addition to the franchise. Toriyama didn't even write it. Because GT wasn’t adapted from the manga of creator Akira Toriyama, however, it isn't considered canon. May 1, 2019 | 6 min read. Using that logic, all of Z is non-canon due to Garlic Jr. appearing. It is probably part of the GT timeline. I dont really know what canon is but if it means applies to the storyline then no. It has been stated 100%. Ya think? Sign Up for free (or Log In if you already have an account) to be able to post messages, change how messages are displayed, and view media in posts. Dragon Ball GT may seem to be like a main series, but it is not actually main. Is a comment that I get ever too often! However, Battle of Gods (which was stated to be canon) introduces Super Saiyan God, making this form the true successor of super saiyan 3, not super saiyan 4 anymore. Dragon Ball GT can fit into the timeline, but so can future Trunk's timeline, technically. Because Toriyama orversaw and DESIGNED GT, it is completely canon. Therefore, there is a need to fix it. I'm just confused now. & in the manga/canon "Dragon Ball: Episode of Bardock", Bardock transfoms into a  超サイヤ人 after his newly found friend Berry leaps forward, protecting Bardock from Chilled's finishing blow, in an act of courage to save him. Putting Super in the non-canon section is not an option, because that goes against what Toriyama says. The reason GT started off on the wrong foot was because the cretor Akira Toriyama wanted to put the series to rest after working on the manga and the anime for 10 years straight, which can drain anyone's creativity down a lot. And Vegeta should've been an Ascended Super Saiyan. GT is a side story, it happened but it didn't really matter since the story really ended with the buu saga, Gt is like an epilogue if you will. It is a little known fact that Akira Toriyama himself drew GT Trunks, GT Goku, and GT Pan, as well as their space ship and (I think it said this) Giru. If you are an anime enthusiast, then it IS canon. It is not cannon. It just shows Goku Jr. being a big wussy crybaby for the majority of the series and he didn't even know how to fly (Pan should have taught him that at the very least) and had no control over his power, much like Gohan when he was a child. toriyama was asked how strong was goku at the end of GT in 100 years later… He said that gt was just a fantasy, not real, didnt count. The events of DBGT are not discussed in DBO. Not even a single fusion from Trunks and Goten as adults, also disappointing. It's impossible, as he's still clearly evil in GT and since he shouldn't exist, the series itself shouldn't exist. BlueMew1234 (talk) 18:35, January 16, 2014 (UTC)BlueMew1234. He only supervised it and drew the characters. We interpreted it as “Grand Touring”, to convey the concept of a road movie type of plot.”. 'Just a minor correction, 'Raditz would not have been defeated if it wasn't for Gohan's attack that weakened Raditz. Toriyama didn't even write it. GT had a decent plot line, it wasn't as terrible as people make it out to be, but it doesn't really compare to DB or DBZ in terms of epicness. The creator is viewed by many to be the canon gatekeeper of Dragon Ball, but Toriyama has been mostly mum about its so-called official lineup. He may be seen as the Author in credits, that is because he created the Dragon Ball manga. 537073685 >>537065959 Baby Vegeta is a good inclusion but why SSJ4 Gogeta when we already have SSB Gogeta? Canon has to do with the story-line of DBZ. 71.197.172.107 11:48, January 12, 2012 (UTC). Even though the anime is heavily based off of the manga, there are enough differences between the two to almost consider them as different canons. The chat, which can be read here, details the producer’s work on Dragon Ball GT. Anime Universe - Filler, and GT both "happen". GT is on the same level of canon as filler. Hit me up on Twitter @MeganPetersCB to let me know and talk all things anime! It would be the equivilant of a "Straight-to-Video" Movie from a comic (IE Batman). How do they fight on a planet without obliterating it? Akira toriyama who wrote dragon ball and dragon ball Z, didn't write GT. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Big Bang Mission!!! & Bardock's RagingSoul was driven by the rage he felt towards Frieza & his 'elites', who set-up Bardock's crew, despite how loyal, & brave/courageous Bardock & his crew were to Frieza - taking on missions that baffled even Frieza's 'elites'. Now, just to argue against what some other people have said, GT cannot be considered canon by virtue of Akira Toriyama having some influence over it. Having Toriyama come out and say what's "canon" would not be a very good idea. Plus I don't buy it, I can't believe that these characters can keep finding enemies who are waay stronger than the last one they have encountered, honestly in that regard I had a hard time believing anything passed the Frieza saga, but that was ignored because I enjoyed the Cell saga and the ones that led up to it. Akira Toriyama was asked by an interviewer that if GT is canon for the relativity of the plot ( like when Akira mentioned that Super Saiyan God would be more powerful than Super Saiyan 4 but in GT is told that Super Saiyan 4 has the highest power level of all Super Saiyan transformations, but Super Saiyan God is told to be the strongest). Like, Trunks comes from a different timeline, but the same universe. I personally think of BOG as canon, but GT as non-Canon. All of the serious threat fights should be taking place in space, yet characters like Cell, the Buu's, Baby, Super 17, Omega Shenron, each one ridiculously stronger than the last, are all planet busters of whom were killed while on a planet, with the planet remaining relatively intact. I can't wrap my head around the idea of a character who is immensely stronger than a planet buster (Freiza), could be hurt by anything less than a planet busting attack. The most I can concede to is the idea of an alternate timeline. All rights reserved. ‘Dragon Ball GT' Producer Reveals Its Involvement With Akira Toriyama, Bleach Confirms Art Exhibition Start Date, My Hero Academia Artist Shares Stunning Wonder Woman 1984 Sketch, Attack On Titan's Final Season English Dub Will Land On Funimation Next Year, Boruto Seems to Be Rid of a Main Villain For Good, Dragon Ball Super Reveals Beerus' Punishment for Merus Dying. Non-Goku Gokus I didn't know Black could sideswitch like this. On Dragon Ball - General, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Do you consider GT canon or non-canon?" I didn't find GT to be that bad mostly because I had the english subs, too. Didn't really work either. Goku did everything in GT. Meshack (talk) 23:02, May 10, 2015 (UTC). GT is canon, but it's one of those situations where Toriyama was done with the series, but tried to force himself to do more. I do. Or who the hell Jaco is. The manga is technically the only true canon for Dragonball/Z. The inconsistencies usually come from filler vs story, for example Master Roshi's young appearance is contradicted between story and filler, or in DBZ when Tien, Yamucha, Kuririn, and Chaozu were sent back in time to fight Saiyans from a 100 years ago, that directly contradicts the story of the Saiyan war (as shown on the list you posted). The Z anime is canon to GT, while the manga is canon to Super. 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